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Steven Hindle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 03.29.2010

May 28 @ 9:36 PM ET
Steven Hindle: Tools, Assets and Needs ...
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 10:31 PM ET
Habs have 8 picks, no 4th and 5th rounder

http://www.prosportstrans...ades/Future/Canadiens.htm
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 10:35 PM ET
Habs need to be patient and accumulate the prospects, not much in Hamilton up front, Bergevin has to replenish the prospect pool
TimBits
Montreal Canadiens
Location: AB
Joined: 08.08.2012

May 28 @ 10:46 PM ET
Habs need to be patient and accumulate the prospects, nothing in Hamilton up front, Bergevin has to replenish the prospect pool
- Symba007


Fixed.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 28 @ 10:55 PM ET
Fixed.
- TimBits

Nothing with top 6 potential. Just some possible 3rd-4th line guys.
Jeepz
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Saint-Lambert, RI
Joined: 10.13.2010

May 28 @ 11:18 PM ET
Nothing with top 6 potential. Just some possible 3rd-4th line guys.
- Symba007


Hard to say right now as a couple of guys came in with 10 games or less at the end of the AHL season. You never know.. Look at Gallagher. I am looking forward to watch Hudon, Bozon and Colberg (is he staying in Europe for another year?) play a full AHL season.

Can't wait to see what Bergevin does with his picks. Although he didn't want to admit upfront that the Habs needs size, it will definitely happen. UFA or trade? Wonder if he'll try to move up or just use all his picks. My bet is that every single one of them will be used on a draft and no trades will happen. Size will come via UFA.

Jean_Perron
Location: Fleurimont, Québec
Joined: 08.03.2012

May 28 @ 11:26 PM ET
Hard to say right now as a couple of guys came in with 10 games or less at the end of the AHL season. You never know.. Look at Gallagher. I am looking forward to watch Hudon, Bozon and Colberg (is he staying in Europe for another year?) play a full AHL season.

Can't wait to see what Bergevin does with his picks. Although he didn't want to admit upfront that the Habs needs size, it will definitely happen. UFA or trade? Wonder if he'll try to move up or just use all his picks. My bet is that every single one of them will be used on a draft and no trades will happen. Size will come via UFA.

- Jeepz


None of those should be playing a full season in the AHL next year. Bozon and Hudon aren't eligible and Collberg will go back to Sweden if he doesn't make the Habs as he has a contract next season there.

The one guy we should be looking forward to watch is Danny Kristo. Should be interesting to see if the chemistry between him and Leblanc is still there.
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 29 @ 12:27 AM ET
None of those should be playing a full season in the AHL next year. Bozon and Hudon aren't eligible and Collberg will go back to Sweden if he doesn't make the Habs as he has a contract next season there.

The one guy we should be looking forward to watch is Danny Kristo. Should be interesting to see if the chemistry between him and Leblanc is still there.

- Jean_Perron


would be nice if the two of them could form some chemistry with Galchenyuk too, i'm just hoping Galchenyuk can get something going with some of the younger players not named Gallagher, bring a lil magic out of them maybe
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

May 29 @ 2:26 AM ET
Steven Hindle: Tools, Assets and Needs
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- hindlehabs


This draft is very deep.

Drafting 6 good players would help the habs tremendously down the road.

I say stand pat or make roster player for roster player trades.

Or even better, trade some roster players for more high picks.
GadesnSens
Ottawa Senators
Location: 'isn't cheatin if ur wf is watchin, ON
Joined: 06.12.2008

May 29 @ 7:33 AM ET
Despite a disappointing ouster from the 2013 playoffs at the hands of junior rivals, the Ottawa Senators,


I dont get what you are saying here ...... junior rivals???
muffin_man
Montreal Canadiens
Location: no problem, as s hole - Eric Engels, NY
Joined: 02.10.2007

May 29 @ 8:16 AM ET
Gone: Kaberle, Weber
Should go but I can wait a year: Gionta, DD

Needs: Toughness moreso than size. Emelin isn't big but forwards have to know where he is on the ice. Same for PK. By contrast Gill and O'Byrne were big but not overly tough/physical.
Grit and size and toughness on the 4th line, Moen being the Moen of last year would help withthat. The white we saw after the suspension is the one we need too.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 29 @ 9:17 AM ET
I dont get what you are saying here ...... junior rivals???
- GadesnSens


It means you suck!

Haha!

Yeah!

Take that!
Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 29 @ 9:18 AM ET
There's also all the compliance buyout guys that will be available at some point over the next two years.

Should be a decent crop this year and there may be some solid players that could be had for a short contract for a decent price.
SonofaHab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Monteal, QC
Joined: 01.29.2008

May 29 @ 9:51 AM ET

As I've said many times before, I would have traded this "great" shortened season and 5 playoff games for another top 5 pick any day of the week. This situation is crippling the team more than help it, as we, again, will draft between 20 - 25th pick. This doesn't help the rebuilding process.

As for trades, no one will want our old baggage. Gionta, Markov, Moen and DD are crippling the cap and will do so for the next few years. Although I've always been a huge Markov fan, the years and surgeries have now caught up to him.

Don't be surprised when the Habs finish very low in the standings next season.

Biggus Dickus
Montreal Canadiens
Location: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
Joined: 02.13.2010

May 29 @ 9:51 AM ET
There's also all the compliance buyout guys that will be available at some point over the next two years.

Should be a decent crop this year and there may be some solid players that could be had for a short contract for a decent price.

- Joel_Eh

Never thought about that myself. Excellent point
Ovation
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 10.27.2006

May 29 @ 9:53 AM ET
I dont get what you are saying here ...... junior rivals???
- GadesnSens

Means there's not a lot of playoff history with them. Nothing more sinister than that.
Habitants98
Montreal Canadiens
Location: ON
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 29 @ 10:18 AM ET
As I've said many times before, I would have traded this "great" shortened season and 5 playoff games for another top 5 pick any day of the week. This situation is crippling the team more than help it, as we, again, will draft between 20 - 25th pick. This doesn't help the rebuilding process.

As for trades, no one will want our old baggage. Gionta, Markov, Moen and DD are crippling the cap and will do so for the next few years. Although I've always been a huge Markov fan, the years and surgeries have now caught up to him.

Don't be surprised when the Habs finish very low in the standings next season.

- SonofaHab


you sound like a pretty miserable individual, cheer up, you make it sound like we're the flames, you know who didnt come from a top 5 pick?

Brendan Gallagher

maybe you should have a lil faith in Timmins
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:30 AM ET
As I've said many times before, I would have traded this "great" shortened season and 5 playoff games for another top 5 pick any day of the week. This situation is crippling the team more than help it, as we, again, will draft between 20 - 25th pick. This doesn't help the rebuilding process.

As for trades, no one will want our old baggage. Gionta, Markov, Moen and DD are crippling the cap and will do so for the next few years. Although I've always been a huge Markov fan, the years and surgeries have now caught up to him.

Don't be surprised when the Habs finish very low in the standings next season.

- SonofaHab


Honestly, Bergevin has a bit of blind luck on his side. If the Habs repeat last years performance (which I personally highly doubt), then he looks like a genius. If you and I are right and they are out of the playoff picture, he's got some excellent rental players that will receive some interest (Gionta, Markov). Some tradeable players in Moen, Diaz, and one of Plekanec or Eller. Add that to the 6 picks this year, 3 in the top 40 no less, and the so called re-build can happen pretty fast.

Yes, a top pick this year would have been nice, but seeing the growth of players like Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Subban, Emelin and to a certain extent Diaz outweights the pick in question, imo.

Only point where I completely agree is Desharnais. Bad signing that he'll hopefully be able to trade at some point. Or else maybe Molson will let him bury it in Hamilton.
Hawkman100000
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 10.09.2008

Jun 3 @ 2:26 PM ET
Honestly, Bergevin has a bit of blind luck on his side. If the Habs repeat last years performance (which I personally highly doubt), then he looks like a genius. If you and I are right and they are out of the playoff picture, he's got some excellent rental players that will receive some interest (Gionta, Markov). Some tradeable players in Moen, Diaz, and one of Plekanec or Eller. Add that to the 6 picks this year, 3 in the top 40 no less, and the so called re-build can happen pretty fast.

Yes, a top pick this year would have been nice, but seeing the growth of players like Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, Subban, Emelin and to a certain extent Diaz outweights the pick in question, imo.

Only point where I completely agree is Desharnais. Bad signing that he'll hopefully be able to trade at some point. Or else maybe Molson will let him bury it in Hamilton.

- kev1586


Burying DD in Hamilton won't save much on the cap in the new CBA. He's better than this however. He is tradable. It's not like he's making 7.8mil/year.

I agree with your other points in full. I wouldn't be surprise if one of Gionta / Markov are moved at the deadline even if they are still in it.
kev1586
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Earlton, ON
Joined: 04.27.2008

Jun 3 @ 3:13 PM ET
Burying DD in Hamilton won't save much on the cap in the new CBA. He's better than this however. He is tradable. It's not like he's making 7.8mil/year.

I agree with your other points in full. I wouldn't be surprise if one of Gionta / Markov are moved at the deadline even if they are still in it.

- Hawkman100000


Gionta could be moved regardless of where the Habs are. If they have any success next year, it'll probably be on the back of their PP so I don't think Markov would be tradeable in that moment.

DD really sucks. I was pretty sad when I heard about the extension. He is tradeable but at 3.5, we won't get much in return.